""Those guys [Kurt and Courtney] went off into their own world and they were kind of thought of as vampires because they'd be gone and sleep all day," says Chris.
They barely spoke for five months, even at rehearsals.
But Chris was very upset about what was happening to his old friend. He would rant at Dave or Shelli, "Kurt's a fucking junkie asshole and I hate him!" Chris was angry with Kurt, he says, "Probably because I felt like he left me. I was really concerned and worried about him and there was nothing I could do about it. I was just taking my anger out on him.
"It was hard to understand," says Chris, "I couldn't get over the whole hurdle of heroin."
Part of the problem was that as usual, Chris didn't confront the problem with Kurt directly. "We've never really communicated very well when there's been a problem between us," Kurt says. "We never talk about it, we just let it pass. We've never confronted one another about things that piss each other off.""
-Krist and Kurt (1993), Come As You Are by Azerrad, page 255
Kurt: Now some white trash mothers are gonna sue us after they beat their children for a few years and neglect them, and then they kill themselves and blame it on us.
Krist: That's right. 'I gave him a good Christian upbringing. What happened?'
Kurt: 'I tanned his ass every day. He should have turned out just fine. If it wasn't for that record...'
-10 Aug 1993
Archivist's notes: They were talking about censorship and the moral panic among fundamentalist "Christians" in America, who conveniently blamed rock music (including Nirvana) for their children's behaviour, while failing to look at the real source of the problem: their own abusive parenting.
Jon Savage: Did you have problems in high school?
Kurt Cobain: Yeah. You know I felt so different and so crazy that people just left me alone. I always felt that they would vote me "Most likely to kill everyone at a high school dance." You know?
(22 July 1993)
Archivist's note: Thank god he picked up a guitar instead of a gun!!
Artwork of Nirvana by Kurt on a drumhead.
Archivist's note: Y'know, this pretty much looks like Kurt drew himself getting a boner (which he made sure to label) after hearing Krist dedicate the song to "all the pretty blondes". Krist doing it in all innocence, hence his halo, and Kurt interpreting it how he wanted to hear it, hence his "horniness"/devil horns.
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Interviewer: Some of the people who responded to the song, "Rape Me", said they were offended by it, in some way, or that they couldn't understand it. Could you explain the meaning of the song to perhaps clear up...
Kurt: Well, we're the cover boys of about ten different magazines this month and in every one of those magazines we explain it pretty good. It's an anti--let me repeat that--ANTI-rape song. I got tired of people trying to put too much meaning into my lyrics, you know, as being too...not making enough sense, so I decided to be really blunt and bold. I just thought, it's a kind of a funny, just reward for a person who rapes--like a guy, like a mean asshole who rapes a woman, violates her, then he goes into jail and get raped, you know. And I think it's a kind of justice, in a way.
Krist: Maybe being offended and not understanding it goes hand-in-hand.
Int: Yeah, well the only reason they were offended is that they obviously took it as a macho, you know--
Krist: They've been programmed by too many beer commercials, or something.
Int: Yeah, I mean, I don't really know how you would misunderstand something like that--
Kurt: I thought we made our stance on rape clear within the last year-and-a-half. Plus, anyone who knows about us would probably know that we are pretty much anti-rape, at this point, you know?
Int: Yeah, you'd think that would be clear, but I guess these were people who didn't know that much about you and were just listening to a record. I mean, you had trouble with Saturday Night Live, right? I mean, trying to get that song played. Why is that if it's this straightforward anti-rape song? Why are they having a problem with it?
Krist: Maybe you shouldn't be talking about it. It's like, taboo, you know? Daddy's bonking the little stepchild, "We don't talk about that here! Nope!".
Int: What's controversial about an anti-rape song? I guess it's the nature of...
Krist: It's a taboo.
Int: Taboo subject.
Krist: Yeah.
-24 Sept 1993
Interviewer: So, I'm assuming they just approached you and asked you to contribute a song* and you said yeah...
Krist: Here's a song from the AIDies. You wrote that song in the AIDies, Kurt. What period were you in?
Kurt: [pauses, joke hits him] Shut up.
Dave: Third period after lunch...
All three: [snickering]
Interviewer: I'm supposed to ask some general AIDS questions. Do you think contributing to something like this, that music can be used as a way to educate people about AIDS?
Krist: You know, as long as it raises money for treatment and hospices and things, that's what really turned me on, that it helped people who were suffering. As far as information, I get so much information, to speak for myself, I don't even know what the heck's going on.
Kurt: The record isn't going to give you any information. The money will.
Krist: Yeah. There's so many theories out there, is HIV even--
Dave: --having anything to do with AIDS?
Krist: --does it lead to AIDS? It's really hard. So, I guess the best thing you can do is help the people who are suffering from it.
Interviewer: Krist, I guess in some recent interviews you've tried to steer away from political subjects, so as not to be pigeonholed as the political one.
Krist: Heavy-handed. Yeah, there's no reason to dwell on it, because I'm just a bass player in a rock'n'roll band. Just go on and on and on about things. And you can talk all you want, but the main thing is that you should be doing things, and that's not just for me, that's for everybody, you know? Why talk about things in the media and then just go home and drink beer...
Kurt: Yeah, it's much more effective to do a benefit for Bosnian rape victims and come up with--[turns to Krist] How much money did we make for that, you know?--
Krist: Fifty-five grand.
Kurt: Yeah, I mean, that makes way more of an impact than talking about it.
Krist: And we got this organization called Balkan Women's Aid Fund--and [to interviewer] maybe you can flash the address and you can send donations to them--and we're working with women's groups in Croatia and Austria and Hungary and Serbia, and in Bosnia-Herzegovina, so we don't have any nationalist ties whatsoever. A lot of these women are just caught in the middle of it all, women and children, and so I'm just pluggin' away at that, still. I haven't given up and I just take advantage of the media and just mention the address, and if people want information they can write and I'll send them information back. But to just harp away on things, over and over again, people lose interest, you know.
We could be like We Are The World, on stage celebrating famine in Africa. You know [sings] "We are the world!" and there's kids, while they're doing that, totally starving to death. It's gross.
Interviewer: You went over to Bosnia...
Krist: I went to Croatia, I didn't go to Bosnia, no way. I wouldn't do that for Bob Guccione, Jr! [founder of Spin magazine, who assigned Krist to report on the Bosnian war for Spin]
All three: [laugh]
-24 Sept 1993
*to the No Alternative compilation to fund AIDS relief
Marigold
By Dave Grohl
He's there in case I want it all
He's scared 'cause I want
He's scared in case I want it all
He's scared 'cause I want
All in all the clock is slow
Six color pictures all in row
Of a marigold
He's there in case I want it all
He's scared 'cause I want
He's there in case I want it all
He's scared 'cause I want
All in all the clock is slow
Six color pictures all in row
Of a marigold
He's there in case I want it all
He's scared 'cause I want
He's there in case I want it all
He's there 'cause I want
All in all the clock is slow
Six color pictures all in row
Of a marigold
Archivist's note: Compare the above lyrics of the Nirvana release with Dave's original solo demo lyrics recorded in 1990:
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Moist Vagina
Lyrics: Kurt Cobain
She had a moist vagina
I particularly enjoy the circumference
I've been sucking the walls of her anus
Analingus
I prefer her to any other
Marijuana
Marijuana
Marijuana
She had a moist vagina
I prefer her to any other
Marijuana
Marijuana
Marijuana
Marijuana
The Interview: What do you do when you're not playing music?
Kurt: Well, I'm reading Perfume for the second time. It's about a perfume apprentice in the 1700s. And I really like Camille Paglia a lot; it's really entertaining, even though I don't necessarily agree with what she says. I still paint once in a while-I painted the cover of Incesticide.
And I make dolls. I like the style of things from the 1700s and 1800s from Yugoslavia and that area. I copy them from doll-collector magazines. They're clay. I bake them, and then I make them look really old and put old clothes on them.
(The Advocate 1993)
Interviewer: Because people thought you were gay and you had gay friends, did you ever wonder if you might be gay?
Kurt: Yeah, absolutely. See I've always wanted male friends that I could be real intimate with and talk about important things with and be as affectionate with that person as I would be with a girl. Throughout my life, I've always been really close with girls and made friends with girls. And I've always been a really sickly, feminine person anyhow, so I thought I was gay for a while because I didn't find any of the girls in my high school attractive at all. They had really awful haircuts and fucked-up attitudes. So I thought I would try to be gay for a while, but I'm just more sexually attracted to women. But I'm really glad that I found a few gay friends, because it totally saved me from becoming a monk or something.
I mean, I'm definitely gay in spirit, and I probably could be bisexual. [...] If I wouldn't have found Courtney, I probably would have carried on with a bisexual life-style.
(The Advocate 1993)
"[...] when "Teen Spirit" first came out, mainstream audiences were under the assumption that we were just like Guns N' Roses.
Then our opinions started showing up in interviews. And then things like Chris and I kissing on Saturday Night Live. We weren't trying to be subversive or punk rock; we were just doing something insane and stupid at the last minute. I think now that our opinions are out in the open, a lot of kids who bought our record regret knowing anything about us. [Laughs]"
-Kurt, The Advocate 1993
Interviewer: And you used to spray-paint GOD IS GAY on people's trucks?
Kurt: That was a lot of fun. The funniest thing about that was not actually the act but the next morning. I'd get up early in the morning to walk through the neighborhood that I'd terrorized to see the aftermath. That was the worst thing I could have spray-painted on their cars. Nothing else would have been more effective.
Aberdeen was depressing, and there were a lot of negative things about it, but it was really fun to fuck with people all the time.
(The Advocate, 1993)
"Well, when we played that No on 9 benefit in Portland, I said something about Guns N' Roses. Nothing nasty-I think I said, "And now, for our next song, "Sweet Child o' Mine.'" But some kid jumped onstage and said, "Hey, man, Guns N' Roses plays awesome music, and Nirvana plays awesome music. Let's just get along and work things out, man!"
And I just couldn't help but say, "No, kid, you're really wrong. Those people are total sexist jerks, and the reason we're playing this show is to fight homophobia in a real small way. The guy is a fucking sexist and a racist and a homophobe, and you can't be on his side and be on our side. I'm sorry that I have to divide this up like this, but it's something you can't ignore. And besides they can't write good music." [Laughs]"
-Kurt, The Advocate 1993
"I've had the reputation of being a homosexual every since I was 14. It was really cool, because I found a couple of gay friends in Aberdeen-which is almost impossible. How I could ever come across a gay person in Aberdeen is amazing! But I had some really good friends that way. I got beat up a lot, of course, because of my association with them.
People just thought I was weird at first, just some fucked-up kid. But once I got the gay tag, it gave me the freedom to be able to be a freak and let people know that they should just stay away from me. Instead of having to explain to someone that they should just stay the fuck away from me-I'm gay, so I can't even be touched. It made for quite a few scary experiences in alleys walking home from school, though."
-Kurt, The Advocate, 9 Feb 1993