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(Found in Cobain Unseen by Charles R. Cross)

Archivist's note: Here is a typed transcript.

TOP TEN REASONS KURT COBAIN IS GAY
[A list by Kurt Cobain]

1. He's marrying Courtney Love.
2. "Breeder" (as in his song "Breed") is gay slang for "straight person."
3. He dyes his hair "girlie" colors.
4. All people are inherently bisexual.
5. He thinks men should be affectionate with each other.
6. He's so fucked up.
7. He has beautiful eyes.
8. He likes animals and children.
9. All cowboys/loggers are closet cases.
10. He has a K sticker on his guitar.

(AND A HOMEMADE "K" TATTOO!!)

The "K" refers to the logo of K Records, run by Kurt's acquaintance, Calvin Johnson of Beat Happening. The "K" might also be a sneaky reference to Krist's name, depending on when Kurt learned the original spelling. The fact that he includes it in this list suggests a possible double meaning.

"When the song finished I kissed Kurdt's hand then gave him a big hug it was very emotional [...] Went for a walk into town with Kurdt and Go-Go. Kurdt is unfathomable. He's friendly but introverted and I find it difficult to talk to him because I admire his group so much and I don't like talking about music with him"

-Eugene Kelly writing about singing one of his own songs with Kurt during Nirvana's Reading Festival set (from Eugene's diary of the 1991 UK tour on which Captain America opened for Nirvana, Uncut Magazine Aug 2021)

Archivist's note: This was typed as it was written (lack of punctuation, etc).

Interviewer: So, how did you guys meet? Come together?

Krist: Well, Kurt and I originally lived in this small community in Washington, and we just kind of found each other, because, uh...

Kurt: There's not too many people in that small community that like punk rock.

Krist: Yeah, yeah.

Kurt: It isn't too hard.

Krist: Yeah, yeah, it's like, you meet somebody and: "Oh, this is just another one of those fuckin' geeks." [makes chronic geek face] Then we fell in love. Yeah. It's been great. We're married.

Kurt: [sarcastic] Then we fell in love with each other's father's. [shakes head]

Krist: Yeah, it's like, father and son--fathers' and sons' relationships are really heavy. We like, swap fathers and stuff.

Kurt: We were part of the man-love-boy association.

Krist: We met through our fathers. Our fathers were kind of notorious in our town.

Kurt: [grins]

-18 Apr 1990

Archivist's notes: I love how Kurt finishes Krist's sentence here. Two black sheep sharing a vibe and a brain, apparently.

Just want to make note of the heavy sarcasm, black humor, and bullshittery going on here in the comments about their dads, since sarcasm doesn't translate well by text. For full body language cues, watch the complete interview on YouTube.

The in-Between
Giants in the Trees

Dream dream dream dream
Dream dream
Am I still asleep?

Nothing is real here, is it?
The touch of a flower petal
The scent of your skin on my life
Looking for love that makes me forget
I'm blind

'Cause we're all right

So hold me close
Hold me tight

'Cause I'm stuck in the in-between
I'm nothing and everything
And the only thing that gets me through
Knowing that you see me the way I see you

Dream dream dream dream
Dream dream
Am I still asleep?

Inside the dreaming tree
You meet me there just when I'm all alone
Call your name and wait
And how will you save me save me
When I am blind?

We'll be all right

So hold me close
Hold me tight

'Cause I'm stuck in the in-between
I'm nothing and everything
And the only thing that gets me through
Knowing that you'll see me the way I see you

Are you gonna wait til I die?
To take, to take and breathe
To live for the sign
Are you gonna wait, wait til I die?
Yeah
All right

Will you come, too? [When I come to you]
Yeah, yeah, yeah!

'Cause inside the dreaming tree
You'll meet me there just when I'm all alone
Calling your name in me
And how will you save me save me
When I am blind?

We'll be all right

It's knowing that you see me
Knowing that you'll see me the way I see you

Archivist's notes: Loaded this into vocalremover.org to hear the words better, as well as comparing with another fan's transcription.

To see another song that explores the concept of "the in-between", click here.

"I remember one time during their [Nirvana's] 1992 Australian tour and we were in the tour bus. Everyone was drinking wine and Dave Grohl took out a notebook. Dave Grohl had a diary or journal of some sort, whatever it was, and during that tour he wrote in it everyday. He might have written in it afterward, too, but I wouldn't know.

Dave started writing and Krist Novoselic asked him what he was doing. Dave ignored him and Kurt Cobain became curious, too. Kurt grabbed the journal and picked a random page from it and read it out loud. This journal entry described Kurt Cobain in somewhat interesting detail.

Dave called Kurt Cobain his best friend and said getting that call from Kurt and Krist was the best day of his life. The journal entry also said Kurt Cobain saved his life because he felt very confused, or lost, while in Scream and contemplated life-threatening situations, if you know what I mean.

Kurt Cobain gave the book back to Dave Grohl, took another sip of wine, and hugged him. He told Dave Grohl that he is his best friend and asked him to never leave the band no matter what, because he couldn't do this [the band] without him. Krist shook his head in agreement. Dave Grohl said he would die before that happened and they smiled. Krist Novoselic, Kurt Cobain, and Dave Grohl had a group hug.

I laughed hysterically at them with warmth in my heart. The next day Kurt Cobain said it was just the wine talking, but I know he meant what he said. You can't fake a moment like that."

-Youri Lenquette, 1995

Archivist's note: I'm gonna fucking cry

[interview cuts in]

Kurt: It could have been painful. Well, it kinda was. [reaches up to touch the bump on Krist's head]

Interviewer: What happened to your forehead?

Krist: Well, I did my bass toss routine and my eye-hand coordination was a little out of sync.

Kurt: You need to really brush up on your choreography.

Krist: Yeah, that's right. I've gotta practice more. And I got beaned on the noggin.

Kurt: I didn't realize that happened to you, or I wouldn't have prodded you in the butt like that. [smirk]

Krist: When did you prod me in the butt?

Kurt: When you fell over backwards after we were done playing the song and I was prodding you in the butt and I was gonna jump on you and attack you, but I didn't realize you were in pain at that time.

Krist: I just wanted to get off stage, man. I was kinda embarrassed.

-10 Sept 1992, interview prior to No On 9 benefit

"I bonded with Eddie from Pearl Jam. We broke our little feud. And we kissed and made up and danced, to an Eric Clapton song."

-Kurt about the '92 VMAs (MTV Seattle 1992 interview)

Archivist's note: They slow-danced to Tears In Heaven

"[One of] Kurt's earliest aspirations [was] to earn enough money to buy a piece of land that both he and his best friend, Krist, could live on with their girlfriends. Sub Pop's Megan Jasper recalls an early conversation:

"I remember one time they were in my office waiting for Jonathan and Bruce and they were making jokes about why they were making records, they were half-joking, because they never thought it would be possible, but they wanted to buy a chunk of land in the middle of nowhere that was all farm land. And they wanted it to be big enough so Krist and Shelli could have a house built on that land, and Kurt and Tracy wanted a house on the same chunk of property, so they could be neighbors and have these great farmhouses. And they were laughing because they never thought they'd be able to have it. Those two [Kurt and Krist] were inseparable at the time. They were so tight.""

-from Nirvana: The Daily Eyewitness Chronicle by Carrie Borzillo

Interviewer: Your house containing everything you own catches fire. After saving loved ones and pets, you have time to save one item. What would it be?

Dave: "Probably this letter I got from Kurt in 1992. That sounds terribly melodramatic, but it's true. I lose everything: passports, wallets, car keys, credit cards, but that letter is absolutely irreplaceable. He wrote it to me when everything was going nuts. We were all living in different places- he was in Los Angeles, I was in Virginia and Krist was in Seattle- and some decisions were being made without me. I got really bummed out and Kurt sent me this letter about my role and stature in the band. It was all, 'I love you like a brother.' It was just before we did 'In Utero' and it said, 'I can't wait to get back in the studio and make a record so we can whittle ourselves back down to a comfortable level,' Which of course never really happened."

Melody Maker (sometime between 1997-2000)

Interviewer: Because people thought you were gay and you had gay friends, did you ever wonder if you might be gay?

Kurt: Yeah, absolutely. See I've always wanted male friends that I could be real intimate with and talk about important things with and be as affectionate with that person as I would be with a girl. Throughout my life, I've always been really close with girls and made friends with girls. And I've always been a really sickly, feminine person anyhow, so I thought I was gay for a while because I didn't find any of the girls in my high school attractive at all. They had really awful haircuts and fucked-up attitudes. So I thought I would try to be gay for a while, but I'm just more sexually attracted to women. But I'm really glad that I found a few gay friends, because it totally saved me from becoming a monk or something.

I mean, I'm definitely gay in spirit, and I probably could be bisexual. [...] If I wouldn't have found Courtney, I probably would have carried on with a bisexual life-style.

(The Advocate 1993)

"I looked at Krist and Kurt as soulmates. The two had such a beautiful, unspoken understanding of each other. Those two guys, together, totally defined the Nirvana aesthetic. Every quirk, all the strange things that came from Nirvana came from Krist and Kurt. I think [growing up in] Aberdeen, their experiences together in those formative years, had a lot to do with that."

-Dave, 24 Sept. 2013, Rolling Stone Magazine

"I walked right up to him and grabbed him and stuck my tongue in his mouth, kissing him. I just wanted to make him feel better. At the end of it all, I told him, 'It's going to be ok. It's not so bad. Ok?'"

-Krist about his and Kurt's snog on their 1992 SNL appearance, on which Krist also kissed Dave (2001, Heavier Than Heaven, pgs 227-228)

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"God is gay and so am I."
-Kurt
Journals (hardcover ed.), pg. 123
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Entries tagged with topic:intimacy & affection

Photo: TOP TEN REASONS KURT COBAIN IS GAY (1991/2)

Quote: A kiss on the hand (1991)

Quote: Krist feels married to Kurt (1990)

Lyrics: The in-Between (2017)

Quote: Nirvana or die (1995)

Quote: Kurt cares about Krist's pain (1992)

Quote: Kurt and Eddie Vedder get romantic (1992)

Quote: Kurt & Krist's domestic dream (2000)

Quote: Dave's most prized possession (199?/200?)

Quote: Kurt's bisexual lifestyle pre-Courtney (1993)

Quote: Dave on Krist & Kurt's relationship (2013)

Quote: Krist comforts Kurt with a snog (2001)

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